It could gave a layer of planning to player phase and class distribution if implemented properly. Lances are not rare, and they have 1 range utility, which means that if they're implemented like they normally are in other fe games you will never want a cav to be anywhere near the front lines. I also liked the GBA magic triangle too, I thought that helped balance magic users too. Also, avoid and hit rate usually scale with the same speed (i.e. Join the /r/firemblem Discord server and have fun talking about games or playing together. I didn’t even notice it was missing until this post. I'm assuming that the damage will be 3x effective, hence why I said it would be crippling. A simple/small question is a question that can be answered in 1 sentence and doesn't generate discussion. Though I am glad that my Mages can use their Faith magic and my Priests can use their Reason magic (though it makes me wonder why I would change anyone to a Dark Mage). [–]Vexalika -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). This is also complicated by the fact that some classes have dual weapon proficiencies, like the Great Knight getting bonuses from both axes and lances. [–]NeimiForHeroes 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). Instead of saying this chapter has mostly axes so I'll bring swords you say this chapter has a lot of horses so im gonna bring lances. When posting external content (such as a comic), please post the original source if possible. There are many games and different playstyles, as such there is no true way to play. Fliers have to be mindful of bows, I don't think it'll be that much of an adjustment to be mindful of lances as a cav. If it's balanced around you being able to skip it, and not on the fluff in between, then that is one less leg to stand on. Which is funny because this sub was mocking the Langrisser a few months ago. No doubt the weapon triangle matters for barely viable scrubs like Hinata or Arthur, but nobody uses these units, and for the units that actually matter like Corrin or Camilla or Ryoma, it doesn't matter. ". For example, what if lances were overall lower strength normally but grants vantage unless against another lance owner. At very least I expect dialogue to change by chapter. I honestly prefer this just cause cavalry is dumb good in every FE game and they definitely need something more to tone it down outside of just lowering their caps. Without the weapon triangle it feels like it even easier than it was before to over level one of the main characters and have them solo the game. When exactly is the Fire Emblem treehouse? I think players tend to put too much emphasis on it without analyzing the bonuses you actually receive, they make a difference but not as much as I thought they did back in the gba days. Yeah, I kinda missed the triangle in SoV. EDIT: WYVERN RIDERS ARE CONFIRMED BABY, HELL YES!!! That’s Exactly why, it saves time being able to kill a ranged unit on an enemy phase. [–]Luke-Likesheet 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children). And bows are still effective against flying units and a few more. So apparently you can skip the school bits entirely should you feel inclined. That bit about mitigating your characters’ weaknesses with the battalions is interesting. I don’t mind the removal of it, but I like how they keep something similar to it with Breaker skills. I’m fine with the weapon triangle being gone. Even then, after careful planning there were always areas that didn't go how you planned with the RNG gods and unit movements that didn't go as planned. Is that gibberish? tyvm everyone, [–]Okkefac 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). Honestly if weapon advantages were intricate and built-in and based around actual combat (i.e. [–]DarkRaiiin 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (2 children). Objectively speaking, there are more impactful mechanics. I haven't been needing to use combat arts that much so far, but it seems like repairing your weapons is so easy that combat arts are OP from the get go. Which is good; the weapon triangle is not deep or complex enough to be the source of all gameplay. Play Fire Emblem ROM hacks and fan games now! But maybe i'm to early to make that call yet. [–]Mad_Gankist 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Also I'm not against nerfing cavs. Any sexual content that goes beyond typical limits for the series may be removed without warning. [–]ScourJFul 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). We consider intentionally baiting unproductive arguments as harassment. I reminded of the tutorial chapter in the mobile game where they recommended to switch an Infantry unit's troops to Lancers, in order to defend against Cavs. I'm not really sure how I feel about it. Joshua's stats are fine for the most part, but he's a footlocked swordie who only has 1 range options. And Robin? I wouldn't think of it as a gimmick, more like another layer of strategy that made each level harder to solve. We consider intentionally baiting unproductive arguments as harassment. If you're new to the series, check out /u/triforce_pwnage's comprehensive guide to starting the Fire Emblem series! There shouldn't be a weapon triangle but the weapons should have more differences than just a sliding scale of weapon damage > weapon accuracy. And congratulations that your units with high skill growth and stats in general are hitting things? I feel like the game is a cake walk without it. Other forms of rude behaviour that we do not tolerate are targeted personal attacks and stalking users across the subreddit/site. These portraits were generated by AI, Sweet Holliday Edelgard & Lysithea (@vavafle_), Winter outfit Marianne (By @WingedKoro) [Commission], S-Support-Series - Advent Calendar #23 - Titania/Boyd, dondon plays FE7 HHM 0% growths - chapter 28x [Night of Farewells]. (Please IS just let me change it, even if you keep it during cutscenes). the rare cases that they are holding Luna/ Nosferatu). It does. I think this is actually a good way to go about it because as every unit can use any weapon, it would be a bit powerful to always allow the player WTA so making the player work for it by training there units in a particular weapon type balanced it out. And we still have specific weapons and combat arts which are effective against certain type of units which is kind of the same thing. Fire Emblem Three Houses - Nabatea. they need to heavily nerf playable mage resistance/ enemy magic to make the Magic Triangle matter though. It is only fair they get a chance to go into a story blind for the full experience. [–]ScourJFul 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago* (3 children). Any depictions of excessive or hyper-realistic violence will be removed. [–]Diego_TS 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (0 children), [+]NotAFakeName1 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (4 children). Also, not every map will have Lance units like how some maps are straight up just barbarians with axes. The weakness works for fliers because archers aren't super common and pretty easy to avoid/kill if you're careful, but lances are so common it will straight up render Cavs as non combat units. I’d be fine with that, I actually don’t like how classes and skills levels work and they could use a lot of improvements, [–]TheGreatAnteo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). However, to bring up a counterpoint, this is all expecting IS not to fuck something up gameplay wise. For those of us who think of the chapters, the My Castle material detracts from it, having you spend less time playing the game. It was a stupid concept. [–]Arch_Null 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children). Yes, but your stats scale faster than their stats, and you get supports and forges and skills that all provide more hit rate. Director Toshiyuki Kusakihara said this is because it wasn't realistic. especially since I'm assuming most everyone here is further along than me. [–]Chinpokomon_Master[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). because the bonuses were never able to compensate for the fact that some weapon types are better than others. [–]joke_LA 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 10-15 Hit/Avoid difference and minimal damage boost becomes inconsequential in the face of losing 1-2 range or killing someone in one round because you are using a weapon with lower might because your proficiency is lower. so I see why it wouldn’t work well without either overhauling it or removing it. To reiterate simply, your warrior and his sweet silver or brave axe isn't getting 100% hit against a swordmaster. But I'm open to a game without it, so long as weapon types are sufficiently different from one another. The difference between using a weapon with advantage vs disadvantage lategame where you have an A or S in rank is a 30% or 40% hit chance swing with a 2 or 4 damage swing respectively. I seriously have no idea if simply that many people either don't remember their playthroughs of the recent titles, save scummed their level ups to hell, got ungodly lucky with level ups, or simply happened to not play the fire emblem games that were challenging. Considering how bs some swordmasters and assasins are in late game i find myself using one of my skill slots for the lance weapon triangle skill (swordbreaker) anyways. Titles must be spoiler free. If so, I guess that’s a cool change. Totally not a core feature of the series. thanks! [–]NinJorf -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (6 children), [–]Anouleth 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children). I feel like one thing I really miss is the weapon triangle. [–]foxbro789 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (19 children), Is 1-2 range all that important during enemy phase though? [–]SlashTalon21 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). A great chance to get hit with 0-5 damage (often zero) with a hit nerfed from 95% to 85% wasn’t going to stop any of your payable mages. [–]gentheninja 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). It’d be nice to hear characters reacting to major story events, and even support events if we still have non-generic support dialogue. To the extent that weapon triangle is another layer on the game, it's a thin layer that doesn't do much to change things and one factor out of many. I have less of an opinion than I thought I would. A unit's avoid is calculated based primarily on their attack speed calculation and on any bonuses or penalties awarded by the terrain on which they stand, and depending on the individual Fire Emblem series game may … [–]TheNegronomicon 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (1 child). The bow weakness works because archers are kind of rare, and pretty easy to avoid/kill if you're careful. [–]rattatatouille 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (8 children). It feels weird not having it but the "-breaker" abilities basically do the same thing and if this had been my first FE it's not like it would've ever occurred to me that some sort of inherent rock-paper-scissors aspect should be around. The Weapon Triangle is mechanic that has existed in past Fire Emblem games. [–]rattatatouille 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (10 children). Swords almost never get 1-2 range generics like javelins or handaxes. If you want to ask a question, please check the wiki, FAQ, the pinned question thread, or the reddit search bar before posting. the triangle doesn’t work with every character being able to use every weapon. [–]JohnnyTheGaymer 42 points43 points44 points 1 year ago (9 children). Weapon range allows more important combat opportunities meaning you can carry on with objectives faster and, depending on map design, deal with enemies you couldn't successfully deal with before. 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